Tuesday, 7 September 2010

VYRNWY: A WELSH GHOST DANCE IS ON THE WAY? Rural Wales Not a Theme Park More a Managed Playground! Who Said That?

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I think perhaps it's way too late for a 'Land & Liberty' Campaign in and around the Vyrnwy Estate, we can forget a Second Battle of Vyrnwy and instead get ready to do a Welsh Ghost Dance over weekend of 25 - 26 September 2010? Perhaps a Zombie get together, now with fourthcoming Halloween season on horizon a cheap commercial break:
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BBC News | Wales | Welsh farming: an industry in crisis

  1. The farming industry is the economic backbone of rural Wales, ... that the recent difficulties have plunged nearly the entire industry in Wales into crisis. ...
    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/431707.stm - Cached - Similar
  2. BBC News | WALES | Plaid plan 'protects' rural areas

    The Plaid Rural Taskforce Chairman Dafydd Wigley AM said the proposals should be implemented within a year to save the "crisis" in rural Wales. ...
    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1397281.stm - Cached
  3. WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Clergy crisis in parts of Wales

    2 Jun 2010 ... VICARS in parts of rural Wales face being forced to cover more than a dozen parishes because of a recruitment crisis.
    www.walesonline.co.uk/.../wales.../clergy-crisis-in-west-wales-91466-26567988/ - Cached
  4. Farm Crisis Network > Links


  5. The CLA represents those responsible for land, business and property in rural England andWales. Farmers Union of Wales The Farmers Union of Wales is an ...
    www.farmcrisisnetwork.org.uk/links - Cached - Similar
  6. Rural Wales: Wealth of beauty, poverty of opportunity | WalesHome.org

    27 Jan 2010 ... THERE IS undoubtedly a magical quality to rural Wales. From the striking coastline ..... Bethan Jenkins on Not another broadcasting crisis? ...
    waleshome.org/2010/01/rural-decline-is-in-nobodys-interest/ - Cached
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    Child poverty: a looming crisis in Wales | Helen Wilkinson ...

    19 Aug 2010 ... If the national picture in Wales is bleak, it is worse in rural areas. .... Child poverty: a looming crisis in Wales | Helen Wilkinson ...
    www.guardian.co.uk/.../2010/.../child-poverty-looming-crisis-wales - Cached
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The Native American Ghost Dance came about out of despair, the writting was more than just on the wall for the Native Americans it had been, by one way or another written on numerous treaties usually under coersion of Miltary Force backing up massive European settlement of the West.
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Ghost Dance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ghost Dance (also called the Ghost Dance of 1890) was a religious movement which was incorporated into numerous Native American belief systems. ...
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In a way the 1905 Welsh Religious Revival also came out of despair, the despair felt by some that an old way of life was being threatened by extinction caused by the rise of secularism and the hedonism of Booze, Sport and Sex. HHHhhhmmm!!! Nothing changes there then but, there was of course more to it than just that, it was a deeper crisis of culture which being Wales would take a religious view and platform to crusade from against evils seen to be brought about in the wake of Industrialisation, anglicisation and acculturalisation.
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1904–1905 Welsh Revival - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

J. Gwynfor Jones, "Reflections on the Religious Revival in Wales 1904-05," ... J VyrnwyMorgan: "The Welsh Religious Revival 1904-05: A Restrospect and ...
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The 1905 Welsh Religious Revival swept the nation to a great degree it stoped Rugby games on a Sunday and even closed down a number of pubs. Bit ironic that Rugby is now more important that Religion in Wales whilst a younger generation of Cultural Nationalists are more interested in boozing at the Esiteddfod and keeping rural pubs open rather than chapels. Indeed how times and people change and no doubt too would what's left of Rural Religious Victorian era Rooted Welsh Culture, if it were not for massive subsidies and grants for a 'Welsh Language Industry'. Out of which has been born Y Crachach Newydd - England's Client Tribe in Wales whose 'Shock Troops' the Plant Crachach Newydd aka CyIG are more concerned with saving a failed over expensive 'ShamlessS4C' than saving their own Cymric Rural Heartlands. But then they for most do not intend to live, work and die in what was once hoped to be an enduring 'Y Fro Cymraeg'. No, I guess it's the bright lights of Cardiff or London or maybe Hollywood for they, so while they wish and seek to play away from home who will truelly defend the Cymric Heartland?
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Direct action threat over S4C cuts

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WalesOnline - Martin Shipton - 2 days ago
WELSH language campaigners have threatened to start a “direct action” campaign against... “We in Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg will not accept cuts to S4C, ...
Language campaigners warn of direct action on S4C cuts‎ - BBC News
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I would suggest to these young Plant Crachach that if you do not want your rural way of life to die, then far better you took yourself up to the Vyrnwy Estate and build a Ty Unnos - Cymric 'Cultural' Camp than worry about the well heeled Pontganna Patagonia media settlers aka 'Economic Refugees' from Y Fro Cymraeg. I would suggest again to all these 'radical' increasingly insignifigant language groups as CyIG, Cymuned and Llais Gwynedd given the now great crisis in rural Cymru which will get greater if some get their way. As example Peter Ogden of the Council for the Protection of Rural Wales who euphemistically speaks of not 'Theme Park' rural Cymru but more rural Cymru being a, wait for it! a 'MANAGED PLAYGROUND'. Wonderful, who is this fella? down play what he has to say in a BBC Wales Country Focus programme of Sunday 5 September (I was tipped off about this and had to down play, great because if you cannot believe what your hearing then you can play it again and again, if needs be?). sure enough a Managed Playground for Liverpool, the Wirral and Chester as is much of the North East Wales whilst Central Cymru becomes a 'Cymric Cossovo' for the 'White Flight Good Lifers'. I hope the N.E.W. Peoples Council listens to the below as it concerns they in particular and after all the Vyrnwy Estate is very much their back yard not mine! Why am I bothering? when really I should be more concerned about Open Casts in the South perhaps, not least around Merthyr my home town. I should be mindfull too, that I know of two people I knew killed on these sites in most awful circumstance of 'Industrial accidents'.
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BBC iPlayer - BBC Radio Wales - Sunday 5th

BBC Radio Wales schedule - Sunday 5th. ... Country Focus · Sun, 05 Sep 2010. The rural news magazine for those who live and work in the Welsh countryside. ... Sat, 05 Jul 1997.5:30 am. Country Focus: Sun, 05 Sep 2010. Coming soon ...
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_radio_wales/2010-09-05 - Cached
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Rural Wales Magazine Contents

p.2, Building on our record - new Director's message, Peter Ogden ... Campaign for theProtection of Rural Wales over the last three quarters' of a century. ...
www.cprw.org.uk/cymwledig/magcont04.htm - Cached - Similar
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West Wales is now becoming a Greater England Beyond Wales and East Gwent, the nice green parts along the border very much domitory land for Bristolians. At least Swansea's got it right and become a Sanctury for Assylum Seekers, despite the Union Jack 'Love England' Poem in their Sanctury Assylum Refugee seeking/welcome pamphlet (bit of a mistake to include that poem really, was it done to cause trouble?). 'Sanctury Swansea' that's alright with me, after all London, Liverpool and Birmingham have long been sancturies for Welsh 'Economic Refugees', personally I think Central Cymru is big enough to accept Roma Refugees from France as the South once accepted Basque Refugees. Perhaps a mid Wales managed 'Rural Refugee Sanctury' is preferable to a managed 'Rural Playground' for the better off 'in coming' English Tourists?' I got to stop writting like this after all England has given me 'Economic Refuge', great jobs and I really like English People, working people in particular. But what of the true Cymric Heartlanders, I wonder what J.Vyrnwy Morgan would have had to say about it all?
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  1. J. Vyrnwy Morgan was admitted a member of Seion Congregational Church, Cwmafan, ...Welsh Religious Leaders in the Victorian Era (1905), and Welsh Political and ... Morgan, J.Vyrnwy: The Welsh Religious Revival 1904-5 (London: Chapman ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Vyrnwy_Morgan - Cached
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The choices are as I have already suggested you all meet at Llanwddyn to hold a Severn Rivers Project Weekend School to deliberate on a radical new 'Rural Cymru Crisis Campaign', strategy and tactics. But before you head home to, you also affirm that a new movement is needed such as I have already suggested, a MUDIAD CUNEDDA restricting itself defence and liberation of 'Hen Tiroedd Cunedda' aka medieval 'pura Wallia'. Other than that hard line really Rural Radical Initiative, then perhaps a 'CYMRIC HEARTLANDS MOVEMENT' which might be somewhat wider in appeal and broader in areas of campaigning strategy and tactics throughout all of Cymry Cymraeg areas of rural Wales as per Adfer/Cymuned ideas on such.
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The Prince of Wales - The Pub is the Hub

In addition to The Prince's Charities, The Prince of Wales has set up a number ... Set up in 2001 through the Rural Action Programme of BITC, Pub is the Hub ...
www.princeofwales.gov.uk › ... › The Prince of Wales - Cached - Similar
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Whatever, you got to get out of the 'Rural Rut' most of you Rural Activists are in with saving schools and pubs, what's the strategy here? Kids get a Village education to grow up and leave for all destinations South to a continuing 'ShamelessS4C' or east across Offa's Dyke to the English Cities and beyond. Maybe most will just stay behind to sign on the dole and spend their giros in the 'saved village pubs', me thinks not as they will more likly still buy the cheap booze in the Super Markets and drink at home or on the village streets. Meanwhile, if Peter Ogden CPRW gets his way your 'Saved Pubs' will become winter pubs for the Cefn Gwald Crachach and in the Summer Time Tourist hostileries. Oh well! it's your choice but if you don't see the writting on the wall, then your either blind or your head is where the Sun does not shine, your Cymric Heartlands are at the 11th Hour, so what you going to do; nothing? Ghost Dance or begin the fight back at the 'Second Battle of Vyrynwy'.
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HRH The Prince of Wales: 'The countryside is in crisis. The stakes ...

10 Oct 2009 ... The Prince of Wales explains how computer technology can save our rural ...but there is no doubt that our countryside remains in crisis and ...
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../HRH-The-Prince-of-Wales
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There is another choice, give up entirely, go with the flow and join the'Carlists', after all Carlo is doing a great deal to save your rural Cymru, of course he has his own Royalist Reasons for doing so and in case of Cymru/Wales a very 'British Secret Agenda' but who cares any more? By way Cambria/HEJ & Cronies what happened to that petitiion, you know the one about no more English Princes of Wales?
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  1. The Prince of Wales - Supporting Rural Communities - The Prince's ...


  2. 22 Jul 2010 ... Now, in a continuation of his work to support Britain's rural areas, The Prince ofWales has created The Prince's Countryside Fund. ...
    www.princeofwales.gov.uk/.../supporting_rural_communities_the_prince_s_countryside_fund_2062503213.html - Cached.
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    The Rural Cymric Heartlands now more than ever before needs
    radical leaders, most obvious who should be stepping fourth
    are all those 'early days' language activists as Simon Glyn and
    Simon Brooks et al. There used to be a load of good Pobl Cymuned
    Activists, of course Llais Gwynedd as a number of radical people
    as Owen Williams and Alwyn Gruffydd. Then what of those Cambria
    Mags language enthusiasts as Sion Jobbins (*see link below) and
    Robert ap Steffan? Then what of Y Hen Cyfamodwyr Lang Enthusiasts
    as Roystan Jones and Dewi Prysor? not least perhaps, lets not totally
    discount CyIG, as Osian Jones I think he has good activist and leadership
    concerns and qualities. It is not as if the rural Cymric Heartlands is
    without a good activist leadership, it's mainly a matter of again
    disunity in purpose and action. One would think that the Vyrnwy Estate
    Land Grab Issue and a rallying cry as LANGUAGE, LAND and LIBERTY
    would unite and move a greater struggle but no! I am at a loss?
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    [DOC]

    This is the story of one of the shabbiest chapters of Welsh ...

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    Simon Glyn and the whole concept of Welsh-speaking areas was .... Welshlanguage activists were labelled 'language loonies' or 'language nutters'. ... Part of the problem of course, as Brooks ackowledges in his article, ...
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Wednesday, 1 September 2010

VYRNWY PROTESTS: BUY IT BACK? Or Maybe Another Pathetic Petition? HOW's ABOUT SOME REALLY RADICAL PROTESTS - DEMONSTRATION AGAINST THIS LAND GRAB?....

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.....Or, is the truth that the Cymry aka 'Welsh' are no longer up for a real fight! looks like it? It very much looks as if the Fat Lady is getting ready to mount the 'Vyrnwy Stage' and sing a rather sombre song of slavishness. Such slavishness that sings of slogans as 'Dal Dy Dir' and 'Wales is Not For Sale', which it seems are no more than empty words? Then sings also of Nationalist Commemorations as at Cofiwch Cilmeri, Cofiwch Abergele and most ironically of all the planned Cofiwch Tryweryn Commemoration which are are but futile and fruitless empty gestures of patriotic posing rather that Patriotic protesting? At least Embassy Glyndwr is not slow to make in to the Front Line, who will follow up?
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TARIAN GLYNDÅ´R

17 Aug 2010 ... Mudiad Tarian Glyndŵr campaigns against oppression of our people and ....The Vyrnwy dam and reservoir were the first of many that would be ...
tarianglyndwr.blogspot.com/ - Cached
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BRWYDRAU GLYNDWR. Material associated with the Military History of the Last Great War of Welsh Independence 1400 - 1416 - 1422. Information on Owain Glyndwr ...
brwydrauglyndwr.blogspot.com/ - Cached
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.The rather sad part of all this, is that not even a call for LANGUAGE, Land and Liberty can awaken 'Yr Hen Iaith' motivated 'Cultural Nationalism' to arise to defend the land of Cymru/Wales from further Cheque Book Conquest and Colonialism. Maybe, it's the truth that these 'Language Movements', Cymuned and Llais Gwynedd in reality are on their last legs and are sinking into oblivion fast but just will not admit the truth to themselves. That is apart from CyIG of course although they today are more 'Plant Crachach' and a pale shadow of what they used to be, a radical 'Cymric Cultural Revolution', well of sorts, much needed revisionism needed there me thinks! CyIG will always have a role and function as the 'Shock Troops' of Y Crachach Newydd' - England's Client Tribe in Wales! But do they really care at about the meaning of Language, Land and Liberty? I think not! unless it's a plot in the Pontcanna Patagonia or maybe Bae Caerdydd or Bontfaen, afordable houses indeed?
  1. Lleucu Meinir, a member of Welsh-language campaign group Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg...... 11/08/08: Now it's NO affordable housing at all for Pont-Tyweli ...
    cymdeithas.org/cat_news.html - Cached - Similar
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  2. Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg: Property Occupied For The Future Of ...

    24 Jan 2009 ... This symbolic act is part of the campaign for the future of the ... could have been developed as affordable rented housing for local people, ...
    cymdeithas.org/.../property_occupied_for_the_future_of_our_welsh_communities.html -Cached
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    1. Wakey! Wakey! Count the farms and homes up for sale in the Vyrnwy Estate sell off, I do not think these will become afordable houses for locals, so what you going to do about it? Meifod is alread 60% English Settlers!!!!
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      .The truth being that 'Language Cultural Nationalism' have indeed lost the plot and have not the slightest idea as what to do next, I have suggested the 'Cunedda Initiative' hold and defend 'Hen Tiroedd Cunedda', the land behind the Cambrian Mountains. However, such must be a radical endeavour based on Language, Land and Liberty patriotic principles and not 'Crachach Concerns' of any rural right.
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      This it seems does not carry much weight, so perhaps the fight out west and north west should now be under the slogan of Jobs, Land and Liberty? Whatever, the great mystery that becomes more and more obvious as time goes by, is why the Welsh Media whilst reporting the matter of the great Vyrnwy Estate Sell off, potentially a massive Land Grab not being overtly really interested. Odd when one considers such is not lost on Property Papers through out the world, even becoming a major Daily Mail story:
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Lake Vyrnwy estate, Powys, Wales, up for sale at £11m | Mail Online

- 2 visits - 17 Aug
Lake Vyrnwy is the largest swathe of land to come up for sale in England and Wales in living memory - a billion square feet of rural Wales, boasting its own ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Lake-Vyrnwy-estate-Powys-Wales-sale-11m.html
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Meanwhile Welsh Media appears very low key and it's focus re any Welsh opposition is limited to the some what muted worries of the local community and promoting the daft idea of buying back our own land?
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Daily Post North Wales - News - North Wales News - 'Sale of £11m ...

28 Jul 2010 ... The estate near Llanfyllin in Powys is the largest slice of land to be put up for sale in England or Wales. The estate surrounds Lake Vyrnwy ...
www.dailypost.co.uk/.../sale-of-11m-vyrnwy-estate-should-benefit-locals-55578-26944523/ -Cached
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  1. WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Vyrnwy Estate to be sold off

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    6 Jul 2010 ... The land will be available on a 125-year lease - next page ...Powered by the Western Mail, South Wales Echo, Wales on Sunday and Celtic...
    www.walesonline.co.uk/.../vyrnwy-estate-to-be-sold-off-91466-26791931/ -Cached
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  2. WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Facebook group aiming to buy ...

    18 Jul 2010 ... The estate in the Cambrian mountains surrounds LakeVyrnwy, ... the farms and estates sales department at Knight Frank, which is marketing the land, ... Powered by the Western Mail, South Wales Echo, Wales on Sunday and ...
    www.walesonline.co.uk/.../facebook-group-aiming-to-buy-11m-estate-91466-26875162/ - Cached
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How daft and slavish can that be? not least when it's on 125 years least, have any of the 500 or so 'Patriotic Plonkers' who have pledged money given this serious thought? I suggest to they, if you got money to throw to Severn Trent and it's shareholders then you really are a bunch of 'Taff Tossers', this is possibly the worst ever Patriotic Knee Jerking one could ever witness. Look you 'Idjeets' here's what you need to do, to save some face and redeem yourselves. Quite simply 'unpledge' your money to this 'Nashy Nonsense' and instead possibly via the Wales Cooperative Centre initiate an Initiative to build a new village in Pakistan, call it 'Fyrnwy' a more positive means by which your money could be used, on a Village Vyrnwy - Pakistan Project.
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Wales Co-operative Centre

24 Aug 2010 ... Lake Vyrnwy estate up for sale – can it become a co-operative? ... will be sold in four lots and is the biggest sale of land for many years. ...
walescooperative.wordpress.com/ - Cached
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Then, I suggest all you 'Saisgeld Pledgers' start making placards and banners and plan and prepare yourselves to be at the Second Battle of Vyrnwy over weekend of 25 - 26 September 2010. Interestingly and excellent write up on this Vyrnwy Issue by S.Ifans of Embassy Glyndwr was only reported in an English based news paper, Shropshire Star more power to their elbow and I will never moan again about that paper being sold over much of central Cymru, see link below:
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  1. 24 Aug 2010 ... A suggestion for a protest and walk from the village of Llanwddyn to the lake on Saturday has been made on the Tarian Glyndwr website. ...
    www.shropshirestar.com/news/.../call-to-fight-lake-vyrnwy-estate-sale/ - Cached
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Mean while what about the birds, not least the lovely little 'Siskins',
see via RSPB Hide at Vyrnwy Centre.
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RSPB Lake Vyrnwy Position Statement - Severn Trent Water sale of land at Lake Vyrnwy The RSPB Lake Vyrnwy nature reserve is part of the Berwyn Site of ...
en-gb.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=307200433041&topic... - Cached
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Gethin Gruffydd.