Wednesday, 30 March 2011

LIBYA: SO IT IS REGIME CHANGE AFTER ALL - WHY NOT SAY SO IN THE FIRST PLACE - BECAUSE IT SERVES WEST INTERESTS NOT TO BUT WHAT ABOUT AL QAEDA & CO?


28 Mar 2011 ... Rally: Hands Off Libya | Wednesday 30 March, 7pm Conway Hall, Red Lion Square, London WC1R 4RL.
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News for Libya London Meeting


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  • London meeting: Military action to continue in Libya
    5 hours ago
    BEIJING, March 30 (Xinhuanet) -- World powers attending theLondon conference on Libya have agreed to form a contact group to direct political efforts in ...
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  • stopwar.org.uk

    Local groups should have regular, open and inclusive meetings. 4.... in the Metropolitan police "kettling" of the G20 protest in April 2009. ... Conway Hall • Red Lion Square • London WC1R 4RL ...Each missile fired by British forces in the war on Libya costs at least half a million pounds. ...
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  • You have to have an hole in your head not to consider that Al Qeada and other Islamist Fascist/Terrorist Groups are not clapping their hands in delight at USA/NATO pave the way for they in what will become the possibly a Libyan failed devided state. One thing is for sure that's the way it is heading or worse with years of total civil strife as Libya disintegrates into and ends up like the Yemen. A minority but much publicised educated elite in Benghazi does not make a democracy that's for sure and they are not as organised as what's waiting in the wings, that's for sure!. This is going to get messy and it will be the Western People will have to pick up the pieces of the costs and possibly more dead sons if Western Troops are put on the ground to finnaly sort it all out.

    Mujahideen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with ..... theKosovo Liberation Army to fight against Serbian forces in the Kosovo ... 2006, Islamists, for the first time, called upon international fighters to ...
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    Actually, the Mujahideen look quite good on the surface as 'Freedom Fighters', it's just all this religious stuff I cannot stick it's sick! As sick as our Christian Crusaders in their Wars against Pagans, Heretics and Arabs. However, back to present day Libya. if you watch enough TV footage of this war of Western Crusader planes bombing Tripoli to bits and straffing the Libyan Army with the Rebels riding 'Gung Ho' up and down the highway of death from Benghazi west towards Tripoli. One migh start noticing in their ranks what suspiciously looks like the more proffessional Islamist 'International Brigade' Fighters, not least from the Yemen, Somalia and Chechnya maybe?

    Islamist fighters seize Somali government seat - CNN.com

    26 Jan 2009 ... Radical Islamist fighters seized control of the seat of Somalia's U.N.-backed transitional government Monday, raiding the parliament ...
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    28 Mar 2011 ... ADEN - Central government forces in Yemen fought Islamist ... Army clashes with Islamists in south Yemen By: Reuters | Published: March 28, 2011 ... any sudden transition by saying Yemen could slide into a civil war and ...
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    On the other hand they could just as easy be CIA recruited Middle East USA exiles as on the ground operatives or bit of both as suits the amount of coin being handed out. We are going down a Kossovo road here but before that I suggest it would be more illuminating to look at a previous war in Afghanistan and the role of the CIA in helping the Taliban change a Russian backed Regime and lead us down the road to present day Afghanistan disaster.

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    19 Mar 2011 ... [1] Operation Cyclone is one of the longest and most expensive covert ... of a more pro-Soviet president, Babrak Karmal, Carter announced, ...
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    CIA IN LIBYA? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

    News for CIA in Libya

  • American media silent on CIA ties to Libya rebel commander
    2 hours ago
    (See A CIA commander for the Libyan rebels”) Both the McClatchy sketch of Hifter's background and the WSWS perspective have been widely circulated on the...
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  • CIA target Libya - Forums of Pravda.Ru

    26 Feb 2011 ... Mar 26, 1996 by rmcgehee A New Successful Covert Operation Reuters news reports yesterday state that unrest in the Jabal Akhdar mountains of ...
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  • David Rothscum Reports: World cheers as the CIA plunges Libyainto ...

    23 Feb 2011 ... To say hat the CIA is behind the uprising in Libya is more of the kind of bullshit that arises from a US Left that is incapable of building ...
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    1. Report: Al Qaeda 'Islamic Emirate' Established in Libya, Led by ...

      23 Feb 2011 ... As the future of Libya hangs in the balance, the country's deputy foreign minister claims Islamic extremist members of al Qaeda have ...
      www.theblaze.com/.../report-al-qaeda-islamic-emirate-established-in-libya-led-by-former-gitmo-detainee/ - Cached
    Engaging the Islamists. by News Source on February 10, 2011 ... Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Morocco, and Yemen – and found that the average percentage of seats ...
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    One thing that's for sure, in matters of war the truth dies and this is no more so than now regards the Western War on Libya, a war that began with talks of stoping a Benghazi Massacre. It very quickly once having achieved that began 'Mission Creep' and moved to support Rebel advance towards Tripoli up to now not succeeding as well as the West thought in would. Now they are seriously talking the biz of arming the Rebels, they are not already? Plus the West no longer hides fact that what it really wants is Regime Change but that depends much on taking Tripoli fast, so expect the West to start mercilessly bombing that City again not simply to destroy the Gaddafi Military but to demoralise the people there and win by means of terror from the air.


    More War that's one thing for sure, but who cares, not the politicians - 'War Mongers' that's for sure as they want the Oil and the Arms Manufacturing bisiness for Home Industrires - 'Jobs & Profits'. Then of course Anglo - American Capitalism, from Consultants to Construction companies are getting ready to move into 'Free Libya' as in Iraq and make stacks of money rebuilding a 'Western Style Democracy' as in Iraq, Afghanistan and where else? Yes! heard it all before but as far as Libya is concerned all bets are on Gaddafi folding fast, what do you think? Do we ever, ever learn from history?

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    19 Mar 2011 ... Have already done an Item on Libya in my on line History Magazine Hwb Hanes Cymru regards the Pirate Barbary Coast, see link below:. ...
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    28 Mar 2011 ... In particular compare what is happening in Libya today with American ...HWB HANES CYMRU/WELSH HISTORY HUB: MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG . ...
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    18 Feb 2011 ... Carl Schurz would later distill this phrase more famously as, "My country,right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, ...
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    Yesterday's London MURDERER'S MEETING:


    1. Telegraph.co.uk
    2. 'Flickers' of al Qaeda in Libyan opposition, US NATO leader says
      7 hours ago
      By Jennifer Rizzo, CNN National Security Producer Adm. James Stavridis says there is no evidence of a significant presence of al Qaeda in the Libyan...
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    3. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      They continue to target Libyan interests and may engage in sporadic clashes with Libyansecurity forces. They strongly deny any links with al-Qaeda and are ...
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    4. Libya: al-Qaeda among Libya rebels, Nato chief fears - Telegraph

      29 Mar 2011 ... Libyan rebel forces may have been infiltrated by al-Qaeda fighters, a senior American military commander has warned.
      www.telegraph.co.uk/.../libya/.../Libya-al-Qaeda-among-Libya-rebels-Nato-chief-fears.html
    5. Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links ...

      25 Mar 2011 ... Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said ...
      www.telegraph.co.uk/.../libya/.../Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html
    6. 'Flickers' of al Qaeda in Libyan opposition, U.S. NATO leader says ...

      29 Mar 2011 ... There is a good chance NATO pressure will encourage Libyan tyrant Moammar Gadhafi to leave power, the U.S. NATO commander told Congress ...
      www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/29/libya.opposition.analysis/index.html
    7. Libya: An opportunity for al Qaeda? - CNN

      25 Feb 2011 ... Libya's beleaguered leader Moammar Gadhafi Thursday blamed ...
      articles.cnn.com/.../libya.jihad_1_qaeda-libyan-state-television-noman-benotman?_... -Cached
    8. US Allies With Al Qaeda In Libya | RedState

      27 Mar 2011 ... As we've noted over the past weeks, we know precious little about the alleged rebels on whose behalf we've intervened in Libya.
      www.redstate.com/.../us-allies-with-al-qaeda-in-libya/ - United States - Cached
    9. Al Qaeda offers aid to rebels in Libya - Washington Times

      24 Feb 2011 ... Al Qaeda's North Africa affiliate publicly offered its assistance and support to rebels in Libya who are fighting to wrest control of the ...
      www.washingtontimes.com/.../al-qaeda-offers-aid-to-rebels-in-libya/ - Cached
    10. Al Qaeda backs Libyan protesters and condemns Gaddafi | Reuters

      24 Feb 2011 ... DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's North African wing has condemned Libyanleader Muammar Gaddafi and expressed solidarity with protesters ...
      www.reuters.com/.../us-libya-alqaeda-idUSTRE71N12B20110224 - Cached

      So what's to do, tell both sides to put down their arms, draw a line in the sand and tell both sides and who ever else is in the military mix, stand down and stop fighting. Might as well accept fact that the West has got half of what it wants a devided and weak Libya with possibly either an Eastern Puppet State as the Yemen or a failed state as Somalia. Then let the People of Western Libya deal with Gaddafi themselves in their own way in their own time or other wise what's stoping the 'Rebels' massacring people in Tripoli as in state of paranoia they take out and shoot anyone they think might have been pro - Gaddafi? Meanwhile where are our usually loud Welsh Pacifists, they have fallen very silent on this issue? forgotten all about Libya back to Wylfa now, how convienient, oh yes indeed? Just Hypocrits!
    1. 11 Mar 2011 ... Jill Gough CND Cymru commented “We stand along side the ordinary people of Libya and are ashamed that people here may have inadvertently ...
      www.cndcymru.org/chwarae-teg-for-libya’s-children - Cached
    2. CND Cymru

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      22 Mar 2011 ... 9 March 2011. Urgent – sign up – Chwarae Teg for Libya's ...
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    .....and what about Cymdeithas y Cymod and what appears to be the Pacifist Industry in Wales?:

    1. Cymdeithas y Cymod

      Cymdeithas y Cymod, the Fellowship of Reconciliation in Wales.
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    2. Linciau Cymdeithas y Cymod

      Links of Cymdeithas y Cymod, the Fellowship of Reconciliation in Wales.
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      However, what about the rest of the World?:

    18 Mar 2011 ... Democracy for Libya cannot come with bullets and bombs. ...
    www.cnduk.org/index.php/.../no-military-intervention-in-libya.html - Cached

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    PS: Come in Ray where are you now?

    BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | Protesters join huge anti-war march

    15 Feb 2003 ... Joining the coaches at Cardiff was veteran anti-war campaigner Ray Davies of the South Wales Stop the War Coalition. ...
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    France pushes for Libyano-fly zone
    2 min - 14 Mar 2011
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